Posted tagged ‘Mark Driscoll’

Let’s Tell Them!

March 29, 2011

Mark Driscoll on Humility, Ambition, and Young Leaders

October 8, 2010

Dustin Neeley, of Church Planting for the Rest of Us, regularly rolls out nice excerpts from extended interviews at church planting conferences.  At the most recent Acts 29 National Church Planting Conference in Seattle, Dustin interviewed Mark Driscoll in which they addressed a number of topics.  The first three dealt with humility, ambition, and concerns related to young leaders in the Reformed movement.  Here they are:

On Humility

On Ambition

On Young Leaders (encouragements and concerns)


The Gospel According to Mark Driscoll

August 22, 2009

All a Matter of Timing: Baptist Press and Mark Driscoll

August 20, 2009

Yes, it’s all a matter of timing.

Over the course of the past six months, Baptist Press has come out with three articles besmirching Mark Driscoll and Acts 29.  But have you paid attention to the timing of their pieces and what Baptist Press is attempting to do?  I have, and here are my thoughts.


Reflections on My First SBC Annual Meeting: 10 Lowlights

June 30, 2009

At the SBC 2009 in Louisville, there were far more highlights than there were lowlights, as seen in my previous post.  However, there were some significant moments and observations I came away with from my first SBC Annual Meeting that were rather discouraging.  Here are some that I jotted down:

1.  Morris Chapman

What Morris Chapman did as a part of the Executive Committee report should be enough to bring about his resignation.  It was that bad.  Seriously.  Whether he claims ignorance or spoke with such ill-informed knowledge, the level of incompetence and grandstanding for political agendas as the most influential bureaucrat in the SBC is appalling. There is too much power and pulpit for one man among a convention of autonomous, local churches to continually say such things without accountability to the convention he is positioned as the Executive Committee CEO.

2.  Motions & Moralism

It has been pointed out already by several that motions can be made by any credentialed messenger at the SBC and that the motions do not necessarily represent the common voice of the SBC populace.  While that is true, I do believe the motions reveal a lot about the ongoing need for the recovery of the gospel in the SBC.  The Pastor’s Conference centered a great deal on gospel unity, passion for mission, and a commitment to seeing renewal in our local churches.  The motions, however, focused on education, boycotts, homosexuals, drinking, cussing, flags, etc., all of which leads me to the next lowlight.


Steve Camp Addresses Mark Driscoll . . . in Repentance

April 1, 2009

“[M]y heart was not right towards my brother in Christ. I should have been more gracious, charitable and balanced in my words when commenting about his ministry in the Lord. In my zeal to champion reformed biblical theology which I deeply believe, I was blinded to the prideful log in my own eye while blogging about the speck in my brother’s eye. For this, I sincerely ask the readers of this blog and those associated with Mark and Mars Hill Church to please forgive me. I have already asked this of Mark privately and he has been most kind to extend to me a heart of mercy. It is my desire to always speak the truth in love and to not carelessly amputate another in that process.”

– Steve Camp [Source]

Thank you, Steve, for displaying gospel humility and seeking to promote the unity for which Christ prayed and died.  May the kingdom of Christ advance as we channel our energies on proclaiming, commending, and defending the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ.

The Run Down on Baptist Press and Mark Driscoll

February 13, 2009

For those of you (like myself) who like to have a listing of the notable articles written over the last several days regarding Baptist Press and Mark Driscoll, here you go (will update when necessary):

Monday, February 9, 2009

* Melissa Lilley of BSCNC writes a cover story of the 20/20 Collegiate Conference at SEBTS entitled “Driscoll, Mahaney – Culture Warriors of a Different Sort

Tuesday, February 10, 2009

* SEBTS press release by Lauren Crane published, “Gospel Comes to Life, Young People to Seminary Campus

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

* Baptist Press runs hit piece on Driscoll, “Driscoll’s Vulgarity Draws Media Attention
* Timmy Brister posts an online poll where 74% voted that the BP article was shoddy journalism

Thursday, February 12, 2009

* Baptist Press revise their article by adding paragraphs 5 & 6 as an attempt to correct their errors
* SEBTS via Between the Times shares their deep disappointment in BP in “Mark Driscoll and Southeastern Seminary
* Timmy Brister writes, “My Take on Baptist Press Throwing Mark Driscoll Under the Bus
*Baptist Press publishes SEBTS’ press release previous written by Lauren Crane

Friday, February 13, 2009

* Alvin Reid writes at Between the Times, “I Have a Problem
* Ed Stetzer comes out to defend his friend, Mark Driscoll, “Friday is for Friends
* Jonathan Merritt responds to Baptist Press in The Biblical Recorder, “Unfair, Unbalanced and Unacceptable
* J.D. Greear, Acts 29 and influential young SBC pastor responds, “Baptist Press joins NYT in Driscoll Bashing
* Baptist 21 begins a multi-part article on Driscoll and the generational gap in the SBC with thoughts by Nathan Finn
* Scott Thomas, director of Acts 29, responds with an article, “Let’s Move On

Saturday, February 14, 2009

* Baptist21 continues with part 2 of the generational gap in the SBC with Nathan Finn

[Note: I recognize that there several more articles about this out there (I’ve read some 20-25 over the last couple of days), but for brevity’s sake, these I’ve determined to be most significant.]

Alvin Reid Has a Problem

February 13, 2009

Alvin Reid, Professor of Evangelism at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, has a problem.  This is an excellent article putting the recent issue regarding Mark Driscoll in historical context.  Take a moment and read his article.  Here is his conclusion:

Finally, I have a problem with my convention.  I am a Southern Baptist. I have blogged before on why I am a Southern Baptist. But I have a problem with my convention, when we seem more intent on witch hunts than on contextualizing the gospel in our time, when we love to pick at each other’s differences than unite for the sake of the gospel, when we are more concerned about our total receipts than we are the lostness of our nation, when we continually confuse personal preferences with unchanging truth, and when we castigate younger men who love Jesus and His truth for simply doing what we taught them to do: study and honor the Word (when they come to different conclusions than some of us on secondary issues, they scratch their heads at the response they get). I was a supporter of the conservative resurgence before it was cool. But the resurgence I supported did not include a Pharisaical legalism that expects conformity in nonessentials. I supported a resurgence to stand on the inerrancy and sufficiency of Scripture, one that now has led me and many others to see the need for a Great Commission Resurgence to be built on the foundation laid by the conservative resurgence. I am tired of talking good younger men off the ledge from leaving the SBC.

My Take on Baptist Press Throwing Mark Driscoll Under the Bus

February 12, 2009

[Note: To read SEBTS’s response to Baptist Press, go here.]

Yesterday, Baptist Press came out with a hit piece on Mark Driscoll, preaching pastor of Mars Hills Church in Seattle, WA called “Driscoll’s Vulgarity Draws Media Attention.”  Within minutes after posting, the reaction from those on Twitter ranged everything from bewilderment to disgust to frustration.  Having been someone who has tracked and written about Mark Driscoll and the Acts 29 Network in relation to the Southern Baptist Convention, I have been asked by some to offer my take on this piece. So here are my thoughts in no particular order.

1. Baptist Press is like the Associated Baptist Press. They write what is news to them, not necessarily what is newsworthy. They have a constituency to cater to, and in the case of Baptist Press, it is largely the Executive Committee.  Baptist Press must be seen for what it is and be given credibility only when it deserves it–and in this case, it deserves none.  Furthermore, I am almost convinced that Mark Kelly did not write the article nor was David Tolliver informed that his statements were directly related to Mark Driscoll.

2. It is interesting to note who Baptist Press chose to provide the content of their critique against Driscoll.  MacArthur’s critiques are fair enough, although it should be noted that his comments were made three years ago.  But then Baptist Press borrows from Ingrid Schleuter, the noted heresy hunter and fundamentalist commentator of Slice of Laodicea.  Ironically enough, Ingrid and her writing cohorts such as Ken Silva have included the SBC in their barrage of “missives” including the “emerging church” and “contemplative spirituality.”  Does Will Hall (managing editor of BP) know they are lending credibility to the same fundy group that fiercely criticized their own?

3. Then there is David Tolliver, from the famous Missouri Baptist Convention who, under the direction of Roger Moran, de-funded all dually affiliated Acts 29/SBC churches because of their “cultural liberalism” (that is, their non-fundamentalist approach to culture).  As I stated earlier, I have no reason to believe that Tolliver’s statements were targeted at Driscoll himself but were inserted into the article to imply that to the reader.  Be that as it may, for Baptist Press to garner ammunition from the Missouri Baptist Convention against Mark Driscoll only further exacerbates the tension between Acts 29 churches and the SBC.

4. But what is disturbing the most is the timing of this piece.  Just last week, Acts 29 Network held a bootcamp where Mark Driscoll shared the platform with Danny Akin, president of Southeastern Seminary. Driscoll and Akin again spoke at the 20/20 Collegiate Conference on the campus of SEBTS.  Driscoll and Akin are continuing their shared influence as Driscoll spoke last year at the SEBTS sponsored Converge Conference addressing the emerging church.  Are we to think that this article by Baptist Press just so happened to be published one week after this conference? Are we to believe that this is not an attempt to discredit and dampen the influence of Driscoll in SBC life?  Are we not to see the implication this has on attempting to shame Danny Akin and SEBTS for their affiliation and cooperation with Driscoll?

5. There are two competing visions for the SBC going on right now: the Great Commission Resurgence under the direction of Danny Akin and David Dockery headquartered at SEBTS, and the Baptist Identity Movement under the direction of Paige Patterson and Malcolm Yarnell headquartered at Southwestern Seminary.  Prior to the Annual Meeting in Indy last year, the Baptist Identity boys were blazing the Internet with series of blogposts talking about Baptist distinctives and in particular “ecumenical compromise.”  From the Annual Meeting forward, however, the Great Commission Resurgence has won the day, leaving the Baptist Identity crowd in the wake full of a separatistic, landmarkist agenda.   Having Driscoll (and Mahaney) who do not share the same ecclesiology and distinctives lead Patterson and his camp to consider the actions of Akin and SEBTS as Baptist compromisers.   The BP article on Driscoll is an indication, in my mind, of an attempt to discredit the leadership of Akin and undermine the Great Commission Resurgence movement in the SBC.  Fortunately, most Southern Baptists are not buying it.

6. Finally, remember all the talk about reaching out to the younger generation?  Those under the age of 40 in denominational involvement are an endangered species, and articles like only work to ensure that they become extinct. Isn’t it interesting that the two biggest movements in the SBC–Calvinism and Acts 29 Network–are most often caricatured and criticized?  It is almost as though the powers that be want the SBC to fail without a future generation to consider the SBC worthy of their labors. Why would they want to stick around and continue to put up with stuff like this anyway?

I am not a Driscoll fan boy. I have not met him, nor am I a part of the Acts 29 Network.  I have great respect for him in many things he is doing, and there are things which I disagree with Driscoll about, some of which I have publicly taken issue with here on my blog.  Nevertheless, the moniker attached to Driscoll as “the cussing pastor” is long worn out, and Driscoll has repented of that.  Furthermore, those who perpetuate that perception of Driscoll are either willfully misrepresenting the truth or living at a level of ignorance that disqualifies them from writing about the subject.  Driscoll’s cussing garnered media attention – five years ago.

In any the case, the fact that articles like this can be written about a brother in Christ that is so inaccurate and uncharitable in the Baptist Press does not raise the issue of Mark Driscoll but Christian virtue. I’m tired of being embarrassed as a Southern Baptist, and I would much rather partner with those who resembles Jesus than the Sanhedrin. As for Dr. Akin, he deserves our prayers and deepest respect.  He, like others (e.g., John Piper, C.J. Mahaney, Tim Keller, etc.), has chosen to see what God is doing in the life of Mark Driscoll and encourage him.  Undoubtedly, Akin has and will continue to (as a result of this BP article) receive grief and criticism as a result. As for Mark Driscoll, I would put him up to any Southern Baptist preacher today who preaches Christ and Him crucified (and how many SBC churches can you find Jesus preached on any given Sunday?).  Baptist Press’ efforts would serve the cause of Southern Baptist life much more in the future should they highlight such preachers who are planting gospel-centered churches and reaching this younger generation whom we have all but written off.  Southern Baptists can learn from Mark Driscoll, but that can only begin when we lay down the knives.

Poll: Your Thoughts on Baptist Press on Mark Driscoll

February 11, 2009

Update: BP has revised their article this morning, and SEBTS has written a response as well.  My thoughts are forthcoming.

Here’s the article. Read it and vote.

Jesus the Evangelist to the Unevangelized? Driscoll Thinks So, But I Have Questions

January 7, 2009

The title of this post is a little bit misleading, but I don’t know of a better way of summing up the following quote.  It is taken from a recent article by Mark Driscoll on the subject of evangelism.  I appreciate much of what Driscoll says (and does in ministry), and given my particular research topic being that of religious pluralism, I could not help but be left bewildered a bit with the concluding paragraph.  Here is what Driscoll writes:

Lastly, the fact that Jesus remains to this day an active evangelist is of great encouragement to me personally. It means that children who are aborted in the womb, those mentally incapable of understanding the gospel, and those people who have lived in times and places that missionaries did not visit are not necessarily beyond the hope of salvation. Indeed, Jesus could visit and save anyone anywhere because He remains The Evangelist.

In these few sentences, a whole can of theological worms come out.  The salvation of the infant and mentally handicapped, the mission of God in relation to the church, the message of salvation, and the means by which one is saved all come into play.  If I read Driscoll correctly, he is saying that the hope he has in the salvation of the unevangelized (by Christians, that is) as well as the unborn, infants, and mentally incapable is because Jesus is the great Evangelist.  But what does he mean by that?


Resurgence Redesign

August 28, 2008

Resurgence has just redesigned their website that looks fantastic.  All new media is easily retrieved at the top of the page complete with all new audio and video, and the template sets the blog front and center for easy navigation and reading.  While I normally read Resurgence via their feed, I look forward to visiting their website more often.  If you are not familiar with Resurgence, I encourage you to check them out.  They would be on my top 5 ministry websites today.

HT :: Joe Thorn

Blue Collar Theology 30: The Need (Case Study 1)

May 28, 2008

I know it’s not Monday (when I usually post my BCT of the week), but things have been a little off as of late. Nevertheless, I wanted to post a couple of YouTube videos regarding the latest buzz among Christian literature to reveal how deeply we need a Blue Collar Theology today. The book, The Shack, currently ranks has an Amazon sales rank of #5 of all the books they sell (with over 500 book reviews). While it has only been on the shelves for a little over a year, it produced a massive amount of interest among Christians and non-Christians alike.

So I want you to consider the responses as I juxtapose them here for the purpose of showing how biblically illiterate and theologically incompetent we are today to address old heresies in contemporary garb.

FOR: 700 Club

“When the imagination of a writer and the passion of a theologian cross-fertilize the result is a novel on the order of ‘The Shack.’ This book has the potential to do for our generation what John Bunyan’s ‘Pilgrim’s Progress’ did for his. It’s that good!” –Eugene Peterson, Professor Emeritus of Spiritual Theology, Regent College, Vancouver, B.C.

“The Shack will leave you craving for the presence of God.” – Michael W. Smith

“Love it for lots of reasons. First of all, I love books that touch the emotions and inspire the imagination. This book does that. But it also has an amazing storyline that is really gripping.” – Mark Batterson, Pastor of National Community Church

“Alright, I have to admit- I am usually a major critic of Christian fiction books. They just usually don’t deliver on expectations. But I recently came across a gem- The Shack by William Paul Young. You have to check it out. It will change your perspective and stretch your spiritual paradigm, especially as it relates to the Trinity and God’s desire for relationship with us humans.” – Brad Lomenick, Director of Catalyst Conference

AGAINST: Mark Driscoll

“This book includes undiluted heresy.” – Dr. Albert Mohler, President of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Louisville, KY

See also Tim Challies’ 17-page critique.

While the potpourri of heresies in recent years has generated considerable push back by the evangelical world (such as The Da Vinci Code and Gospel of Thomas), one has to wonder if the scent of this fictional book has enough attraction to delude many believers whose theology is no deeper than the front shelves of their local bookstore. Is this not a clear case of our need for a Blue Collar Theology today?!

Asking and Answering – Today

March 2, 2008

Just a reminder to all of you who were so supportive and voted for my question on “Ask Anything” and especially those of you who participated in the 9th inning rally that rocketed the question from #10 to #1 in six days (a total of over 25,000 votes). 🙂

While Pastor Mark Driscoll will preaching on my question today, I do not expect the audio and video to be available by mid-week. Those of you who will take the time to listen or watch, I would be interested in hearing your responses to Driscoll’s treatment of my question. All the media should be posted here.

“Ask Anything” Sermon Series by Mark Driscoll

January 9, 2008

Well, it seems like yesterday that we had the ninth-inning rally where the question I asked when from #10 to #1 in six days thanks to all of you who voted (nearly 10,000 votes!). I just noticed that Pastor Mark Driscoll has started his sermon series at Mars Hill, beginning with question #9 on birth control. If Driscoll preaches each question without interruption, my question will be preached on March 2 (which happens to be the week of my birthday!). I look forward to listening to these sermons and encourage you to check them out.